Political human life.

Hello. I feel like I made a really good point in my last post, so I wanted to make another post to emphasize it !

Human life is not something that exists outside of the political domain. Which is just to say, in so much as we have a government, and in so much as we have this good functioning United States government, there is no human life outside of its political arena. And this is to say: law.

Now, I am the last philosopher to say that everything is political. That all we’re dealing with is politics. No.

However, the reason why I don’t feel I need a gun is because I feel safe enough under our government such that if I have an argument with someone I don’t have to worry about them killing me over it. Or me them.

That’s it. That’s politics. At root, there is nothing more than that basic fact. I don’t wanna have to carry a gun and defend myself whenever I go outside my house, or even if I’m in my house because someone might want my house. Governance, and particularly the United States government, is good because I can’t kill someone just because I disagree with them.

Yes, yes, there is all the social stuff too..

But the abortion, women’s health, issue is being made around life and health, more so around the sanctity of human life.

And I am saying that I thank God that I don’t get to kill someone just because I disagree with them. The reason I don’t get to is because of our government; in this sense, life has nothing to do with some essential quality of being human, Which is to say, some quality of being human that exists outside of governance.

If you want to argue the case with me, then that’s philosophy. Without governments you’re gonna start having a philosophical argument with me and I’m gonna pull out my gun and shoot you because I don’t wanna hear your opinion or argue or discuss with you about what some sort of essential valuable human life might be. Because I already know what it is, and if you have a different opinion then I’m gonna kill you. Why not? There is no policing body to prevent me in any way. I would sustain my ideal by removing every other, including what it is to be human and what it’s life is.

Now, I’m just making a point. I am not going to further the philosophical route to say that I’m ethical because of government. I’m saying that government has to do with securing of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and the general welfare, and all that Constitution stuff.

I’m saying, life, human life, is what we are when we’re doing stuff involved with other human beings. And if we would bring the issue of abortion back to this basic fact, and not bring in what people believe health is or life is, then the decision would be so clear.

Ethics, and my personal values about the sanctity of human life is my personal values. in other words, it is my religion. And government should not step into my personal religious views so long as they don’t interfere in another persons ability to pursue their own life.

If a fetus is interfering in my life and my ability to pursue my values and my beliefs, then ultimately it’s doing it through its mom at least, at minimum. And so whatever value that the fetus might have so far as a human life, is ultimately a religious ethical argument.

We need to write a better law. And not make it upon whether or not a fetus is a human life and deserves rights.

Individual communities can do that. We have to get clear on what is actually happening, if we are going to ever get anywhere towards some sort of “inalienable rights“ as an essence.

Abortion! Row: Write a better law.

Roe v. Wade has been sent to the states, I guess. And will be up for vote in the ballots later this year, I guess.

These debates over abortion, I feel, are about religious belief. The arguments that are being made about women’s health are really taking shape around the battle of religious belief, rather than about governance.

First off, the very idea of “inalienable rights” is it self a legal position. There is no such thing as in an alienable right that people are born with essentially; An inalienable right is a right that our government afford citizen people under the law.

It could be that people think an inalienable right is actually something we are born with as human beings regardless of governance, and that could be why no one wants to call out The fact that people are taking the religious position under the guise of science in women’s health — because then that might open up the inevitable insecurity about those people who believe that inalienable rights are not something that government gives us.

Question for those people: What good is an inalienable right if you don’t have the power to keep people from killing you over it?

It’s the inherent irony of religious belief.

However, if we keep governance about trying to keep the peace, and not about the religious questions of what life is or when it begins, then the decision becomes clear: Life is what we do when we’re living with other people.

The problem is that people are arguing about what is life, and not debating about whether or not people will kill each other over this. No one wants to talk about how we are killing people by making them have babies that they don’t wanna have. Because that would have to require of American citizens a little bit too much reflection upon their own ideas of belief and the ramifications of it in real world.

I feel like it’s an elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. I don’t hear it anywhere. The discussion is about science, or about life. I’m not sure whether these things have anything to do with governance or law in the United States.

I think it’s obvious that people who are pro life are trying to push through a religious agenda because they feel that the United States is a Christian country, or at least a 10 Commandments fairing country.

Perhaps that is an overgeneralization, but it seems all this bickering over Roe versus Wade and women’s rights is really missing the issue of abortion and government in the United States.

The role of government is to mediate between Parties so we don’t kill each other.

Aside from that argument, though, I think the pro-life position really is one which says that all human life is valuable, and so as soon as a fetus is conceived in the womb, it is a human life, and so is valuable, and so is protected under the United States government.

To me, pro-life movement seems like a pipe dream that doesn’t want to face the reality of the situation. They take their religious ideals and then find “science“ which appears to agree with it and support it under the notions of women’s health and etc…

It’s as if they wear blinders to the truth of the reality of the situation of pregnancy. It really is like saying that if someone ended up pregnant then it’s because God deemed that this human being should be allowed to continue to live, and that human beings shouldn’t interfere with that life or else it is murder.

…it’s utterly a religious issue in that respect.

For sure, though, I feel that there should be more resources, mental health, physical health, financial, education, etc. for people in general, let alone would be mothers. Yes, that’s true. Yes we should.

But to make people who end up pregnant continue with their pregnancy by virtue of the fact that they got pregnant, is really just saying that they got pregnant because they are immoral or irresponsible. And in this country, don’t you know, we think that people should be responsible for their actions.

Again, that’s an ethical question, that’s a religious question, because it doesn’t deal with the reality that more people are getting pregnant every day than any pro lifer advocate would want to admit, And getting pregnant more often than any sort of mental health or social system could help to absorb.

I agree, actually, that the question should be put to the states. I think that is the issue of the law, beyond the “inalienable rights” to health issue. The law was not written in such a way to be full-proof, and I think that’s what the Supreme Court is making notice of. So they are returning it to the states, basically, telling everyone that they need to write a better law if we are going to make this right of citizens in the United States to control their own bodies.

That’s my two cents

Tommy Curry sheds light into a significant blind spot

www.researchgate.net/publication/326919537_She_Touched_Me_Five_Snapshots_of_Adult_Sexual_Violations_of_Black_Boys

How often does our morality paint a broad swathe over people as general categories ? And how often does this stroke fix into institutional norms which then reify and enforce social bias?

Tommy Curry ventures into where the many fear to tread.

It is interesting what we choose to forget.

These Wiki articles show the making of a good point of law that, I think, we tend to forget about.

While the topic which begins and really forms the impetus and basic force of the argument is, at first, somewhat offensive to our early 21st century morality, the point is actually quite significant when you give it a chance to reach into your more intelligent sense of humanity.

Check them out.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Morality_and_the_Law

Listen and learn: the language of science and scepticism

Peter Ellerton, The University of Queensland As scientists, one of our responsibilities should be to promote clarity. A lot of problems are caused by an incorrect or incomplete understanding of terms we regularly, and even lovingly, use. When I use the word “evidence”, what I think I mean is a function of many things, not […]

https://yandoo.wordpress.com/2015/12/07/listen-and-learn-the-language-of-science-and-scepticism/

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