Begins and Ends

Ive been hearing alot about ‘endings’, of history and philosophy, darkness. 

Why is technology ‘dark’?  Why is the ‘techno-capitalist’ dark?  Is global survalence (sp, lol) ‘dark’? AI that exceeds human consciousness? Selling our information ? 

Alot of people it seems talk about all this ‘dark’ stuff, but never told us why its dark.

I mean, i recall the band Ministry and Nine Inch Nails was dark for a second; then they just became another money making hip soundtrack for movies. Insane Clown Possie, while indeed disturbing and dark, is now taken in stride as entertainment, so ICP is less dark than it was. 

So why? I see Nick Land as refering to his Dark Enlightenment as merely a creative use of Enlightenment. But Maybe someone could talk about the reason why ‘dark’ is dark.  

Perhaps it is not the world thats showing us the end, but a particular manner, a particular ordering of thought to activity, that is ‘showing’ ends.  Maybe its just transition ?

Maybe what it false is ending, and what is true is beginning?

Perhaps we begin with truth, and end with religion.  

Dont know.  Someone got sny suggestions???


  1. This doom and gloom has been around for quite some time, maybe it is just a residue from postmodernism? – That was indeed obsessed with all sorts of endings. When I read Baudrillard back in art school it got me pretty gloomy. In any case, your quote –

    “Perhaps it is not the world thats showing us the end, but a particular manner, a particular ordering of thought to activity, that is ‘showing’ ends. Maybe its just transition ?”

    When you propose this question I am reminded of the dangerous territory that may reside at the other end of ‘showing’ darkness – that particular manner which shows us an ending implies, if not within its own program then by a kind of counter-movement in the face of the former’s insights, an acute crisis of existing conditions: if the ‘dark’ in darkness implies endings then on the other side of politics it may stir a (violent) conviction to rebirth, cleansing, regeneration, etc.? For example when crisis or of a vision of “darkness” comes as reactionary element which attempts to temporalize a utopia in order to overcome what they see as social disintegration or decadence, etc. Isn’t this bad taste what is lurking around in Europe or in America’s political spectacle? Look at the slogan “Make America Great Again!” – The phraseology is all about regeneration and political measures of ‘improvement.’ Or in other words, fascist charisma lurks there somewhere succeeding as it does off of the performance role of propheta offering followers a new mazeway to redeem a group/nation from the “darkness” into a new era. I mention this because you mentioned eras of transition and I think such eras are dangerous times. I think the theories of ‘darkness’ play their part in this cataclysm – it may, if not intentionally or explicitly, play a part in feeding certain semiotic territorizalizations which often end up in all sorts of psychopathologies, imposing violently a dominating nomos that tries to eliminate alternatives (democracy, equality, for example). That is one interpretation. While I am not saying that “Dark Enlightenment” is explicitly neofascism, it makes me wonder if it doesn’t harbor certain conditions that could be actualized as such.

    In any case, darkness is a metaphysical presupposition right? Darkness doesn’t have to be dark – I think that is what you are getting at? Maybe we should ask ourselves how this vision of ‘dark’ or of endings is an accomplice in its own scene, making itself its own prophet: when you see darkness, darkness will be everywhere. At least some of us out there can envision an endpoint, whereas the fascistic impulses know no terminus and only a cult of permanent expansionism. Wait for technology to save us, to “regenerate” our life – life enhancing, emm. When everything comes up as darkness doesn’t it often effectively stage a kind of vision of struggle against it that reinforces a perpetuated liminality?

    “Maybe what is false is ending, and what is true is beginning?”
    Perhaps it is a revealing, or better yet to keep with your theme – an apocalypse?
    Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel, or a freight train.

    1. I am a paradox unto my self i suppose 😝 for i am a pessemist in specifics but an optimist in general.

      Yes,the fascist responses, fndamentalisms, reactions. I admit, my reading of Land and other post. Trans. Non humanist is quite limitd, but from what i have read, the only thing i feel is any different as to the content of the base from which analysis proceeds, is the tone. Maybe it is just me projecting my own, but it feels to me alarmist and based in fear. But also, might i say, ‘culminatavist’, in that it seems to argue “omg weve done it this time!” Like some sort of great disaster looms in, for example, AI.

      To me its all human stride.

  2. Our feelings are supposed to serve as guides, right? I don’t know.

    (1) And there are only & many “guides” out there, but reason is the most guide-ish of them all, once seen as light. People would often say they were being reasonable in taking this or that course. Now, I suppose, reason doesn’t really work as a guide for their action & behavior, but I guess people do it anyway. So it is “dark” in that apparently there are feelings which are somehow being worked through here, in all of this, but strangely without the guiding lights of reason.

    (2) I shot the lights out! To say “I see Land is…” is entering into the light/dark leitmotif, and saying, I’m aware of all of “this, and this, and this…” (above). So what then, of that which lies below all this? Better to suggest, maybe, that reason used to be a thematic kind of “internalized music” which was eventually turned into a bad re-run in the name of ‘radicality’, at the end of the day. The concept of “internal music” may do better to enrapture what is sometimes meant by having or following reasonable “guides” in one’s life, etc.

    (3) A third attempt or pass would likely indicate that, oddly enough, musicality itself became suspect, since life does not necessarily ‘harmonize’ in that way, as though it were a matter of keeping score, following the rhythm, etc. What of the stray notes? Generally, our ‘fundamental human need for security’ (on Land, literally) in the form of good musical tunez & the feeling of fear probably wind up having some creative things in common.

    After all that, I have no idea what I mean anymore, neither in rational thought, nor in the intuitive senses or felt perception, and not – God forbid – in any ‘deeper’ place of the musical spirit.

    So who then shall I fear?? What am I doing here?

    1. That , is rad. I hadnt considered. Reason was insuficient. So then it became radical. Then dark. Maybe. I dunno. But it all seems somehow it translates into all doom and gloom.

      I mean. What is ur take on Levis. End. Stuff. ? Larval Subjects.

      1. Reading it, now.

        OK – Yea, reason was insufficient. Levi appears to be “attached” to certain things, like someone who is just carrying along in life playing their “favorite song” over & over again on their walkman or, oops – iPod, now. He’s got the headphones plugged in, listening to the gloom and doom radio station. It says: Now broadcasting, listen to ‘SR.OOO Academia Live’. And yet, he also seems to know that there is – somewhere – this kind of ‘musical spirit’, that one can actually create new music, etc.

        Some of this is evidenced by how great of a writer he is. I think he changed his name, at one point, and that (magically) allowed him to be such a good writer, therein realizing the light. He talks about it somewhere, all very interesting stuff. And what goes on, in the ‘seeing’ of oneself, with a new identity, etc.?

        Notice, then, how the same move cannot really be made with respect to musicality, since music is generally about other issues pertaining to “talent” or “ability” in ways that, well, writing isn’t concerned with. Writing is largely about making meaning, not making music. They may overlap, at particular moments or signatures, but that’s about it.

        I mean, consider the prodigy pianist, against the background of Levi’s work as a writer. The child pianist, for instance, isn’t so attached to the notes as depicted, he just plays them. As for Levi, well, clearly he’s a great writer, but there’s still probably “something else” going on in the pianist that is not necessarily written. So the gloom and doom channel is so gloomy and doomy because, while it don’t mean a thing, he’s still writing about it anyhow, or trying… so, I’ll give some credit to Levi, for that much.

        Then again, with the prodigy: she reads notes, in a song. Wait – actually, she might not even know how to ‘read’ the sheet music, in the first place.

        Why doesn’t Levi pull another ‘switcheroo’ like the first one? It’s not as though I could change my name (which is a written ‘entity’, apparently with some certain meaning) & cut my hair & in doing so “free up” blah blaghh unconscious creative energies blah … through some transition in the actual mechanism of ideation alone and … become a fun-loving music maker and that would solve all my problems.

        Or could I…?

        Anyhow, that may be in part why and how ‘it gets old’ after a while, and it goes all gloom and doom, since there’s no real variation of different things, bits of text here & there all converges into the ‘whole of English’, nothing one can do to tell the song how exactly to play (sic), or else: to become a musician in addition to a writer — that is, except by practicing it daily. There are a number of other possibilities out there, like learning another language, etc. Partly, I’d say it’s gloomy precisely because of his mastery. Mastery of what, though? And who really wants to do any of that, if it doesn’t already come naturally — like the prodigy?

        Grumbles ensue…

        I guess one may get attached to songs like that, sometimes, seriously living by every meaningful lyric, and then it gets serious. He’s so seriously caught up in the lyrics of a particular song, and he isn’t able to purely separate that from the… sound itself. Or else, if you’re reading the music too slowly, note-by-note, then at times you can’t ultimately play the song so well, at the proper speed & tempo & whatnot. I don’t know; I’m not a pianist. But there are times where one has to be fast, with one’s talents/abilities, to keep the momentum up.

        What happens if one goes too slowly at a fast part & gets ‘trapped’ in a song like this, whereby one loves the musical sound as it plays, but in the very same song…. the lyrics suddenly take a turn for the worse? It ‘crunches’ it, somewhat, so that one is crushed in the middle of the performance.

        Usually, we think a song purely encapsulates music & its lyrics, but what if it’s just a kind of rough overlay and they’re not really connected like that in the heart of it? Then, you have dissonance, discrepancy, etc. So, there is, I guess, some dissonance in Levi’s stuff, not so much by virtue (as in the ‘virtuoso’) of his writing, but under the aspect of his attachment to certain things. He has this sort of attachment, rather, because he’s a sort of virtuoso, not like the piano prodigy in music, but of meaningful lyrics.

        The attachment is right there in his name, and it keeps him ‘stuck’, in a certain way, because he is so named. And all of his many publications and identity are likewise rooted in it. That is, unless he begins to ‘sing a new song’ to Jesus; but who knows? Obviously it doesn’t begin and end with the music prodigy, either, though already it’s arguably better now than even Badiou’s math-analogy stuff; but nobody to my mind really unpacks it further, in this sound & music vein.

        And yet – Identification is the root. Usually, I just hit ‘skip’ song, abandon this one, & go on. Lol.

      2. I am totally digging your analogy I never really know whats up with me until i get some feedback. Levi seems to want to reply to everyone but me, and in fact im paranoid that hes deleteing my comments. But i cant know because he wont respond to me. Lolol.

        Coolness and coincidence: after ‘absolution’. The next book of mne will probably be centered arond Faust and Mary Magdeline that will addrss the music thing like i think you are talking about here. But im so slow in my book making itl orobly b like 10 years from now. Lol.

  3. Bless you.

    I’m currently watching this, now:

    (‘anti-Marxist Conservatives’ – Lol!)

    I started with God and the universe, only then – I suppose – to get all caught up along the lines of “I think Pantheism is a good place for me to start”, afterwards. And I rolled with it from there, guessing and supposing at the wind.

    But ‘making use’ (Laruelle stuff) of the good places or topoi had never really occurred to me, until after I was already in the ‘thick of the race’, and not here at the starting line. You mentioned a value of/for goodness in an earlier post, or perhaps even, it stretches it, an ‘originary goodness’.

    But no thought of using had ever occurred to me, until I was *without* the good God and the universe, which is where one is given to begin again, albeit differently. Jesus, this transition is nuts!

    Soo it’s all a jam – time to take it from the top! Here’s to new beginnings.

    Thank you.

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